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PUTTING THE HAMMER TO MALLETT Response to Doug Mallett's accusation that we are a "Rambo for Christ" site
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Mallett's lies about us at: This
article will help you see why Bible believers may need to leave For
legal purposes: I have saved this web page to file as evidence in case the author
This site has accused us of being a "Rambo For Christ" site. They have developed a very clever force of logic based on lies about us. So, I am taking their eleven accusations against us, and I am answering them. The reason I chose this site to respond to is that it seems to put into hate and speech the form of attack which is coming from inside the Lord's Church from hirelings who are screaming mad. They have been hit by our Bible based editorial. I notice that, of all the KJV Only people in the world, some who hit far harder than I do, this fellow picked only our site and that of David Cloud to attack. Did you hear of the fellow who was so open minded that his brains fell out? I think we have found him. Here
then are the qualities of which we are found accused, guilty, and condemned. These
are the accusations that the world at large will soon use to attack the saints.
We might as well start giving an answer. Fundamentalists
like Steve Van Nattan and David Cloud,
1. Belief they are the only true church.
Doug Malletts states: Steve
Van Nattan responds: Ezekiel 44:23 (KJV) And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.
2. Unquestionable authority. Doug Malletts
states: Steve
Van Nattan responds: The author, on his web site, takes many of my statements out of context, but I note that most of them were when I was dealing with high handed jack boot preachers. He mocks at me, and plays tricks with my words, and now he accuses me of doing the very thing which I was fighting on my site. He KNEW what I was doing, but he accuses me of being authoritarian. I think we have a Cardinal Ratzinger here who makes the rules as he goes along. Proverbs 8:5 (KJV) O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart. There was something else on my pages that made this fellow mad, and he will NOT discuss it. Sin? A big belly? Porn? I have no idea why he makes no comment on these topics on my site. Maybe he is divorced and remarried. The point is this-- when a man sees that you are taking up HIS cause in your contentions and teachings, such as against jack boot preachers and guruism in the Lord's Church, why does he turn around and attack you? Answer: Something much bigger is bugging him. Come on buddy, tell us what really got your nose out of joint.
3. Control through fear tactics.
Doug Malletts states: Steve
Van Nattan responds:
These are just a few of many other pages that encourage, comfort, and entertain the saints with interesting and useful things. Of course, this creep will brush these aside and say that no amount of comfort and encouragement of the saints will make up for one nasty article at our site against the NIV. So, my dear creep, as we say in Texas, "Deal with it".
4. Control through intimidation.
Doug Malletts states: Steve
Van Nattan responds: Questioning the Word of God is rebellion against God. The believer is not instructed in the New Testament to always be ready to ask a question. Rather; we are told the opposite: 1 Peter 3:15 (KJV) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Anyone who questions ME is welcome at my site. In fact, anyone who has ever sent me email and told me they agree with me on everything on the site is lovingly rebuked and told to learn to be a "noble Berean" and prove all teachers by checking them against the Word of God. What makes this creep mad is that he is being questioned in his defense of the NIV etc. So, the lie is used, and a false libelous attack is used. Ha Ha, boy, I laugh at you. Romans 3:4 (KJV) God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. For the record, I never questioned this idiot, and I did not know of him until I did a search for my name at Google. So, how did I get to be one of only two wild and woolly KJV only models for his hate? I thank God I hit the pest square between the eyes. Furthermore; this creep makes no mention of Dr. Peter S. Ruckman. He is FAR more aggressive in his attacks on these NIV gurus than I am. I believe he sees me as a weak and puny target. If he went after Ruckman, he would get a royal thrashing. So, I am delighted to be considered weak and puny and harmless. That is what Austria and Germany thought of Otto Von Bismark. I like it like that.
5. Control over person's personal lives.
Doug Malletts states: Steve
Van Nattan responds: I attack this sort of thing all over my site these days. He knows it also I suspect. I control no one. I have no following. No one stops by my home and asks my opinion. I don't get that much email, and when I am asked to give a verdict from a distance on someone's life choices, I decline because I cannot tell from a distance what their situation really is. Again, the man just plain lied. He is antichrist. 2
Corinthians 7:2 (KJV) Receive us; we have wronged no man, we have corrupted no
man, we have defrauded no man.
6. Personal public confession of sin.
Doug Malletts states: Steve
Van Nattan responds: I have no group. No one has ever confessed sin in my presence because of any association with me at my web site. This site author owes me confession of sin though for lying about me. And, I dare him to drive to Kingston, Tennessee and stand toe to toe with me and retract these accusations. He will not, because all these diddle heads are wimps, not warriors. 1 Corinthians 14:12 (KJV) Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church. For the record, I am vicious, in my journal, with Fundamentalists who abandon edification of he saints in order to control them. Mallett is a damned liar.
7. Isolation. Doug Malletts states: I have no church. I have no members. No one on earth has been forbidden by me from fellowship with someone else. I exercise NO power over anyone. Again, the slow belly just made this up. Furthermore; I know many KJV only men, and 90% of them are pastors of small churches and have very little power over the masses, as do NIV junkies like John MacArthur and Dallas Seminary. Even Peter Ruckman, who has something of a following, is a pariah to most Fundamentalists. Where is this big tough KJV only man, huh? Psalms 133:1 (KJV) Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
8. Us against them mentality.
Doug Malletts states: Stupid. We DO indeed have a war on our hands. Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. The battle is with Satanic forces. If this site owner and his friends take up with Satan and his funny bibles, they will indeed find themselves defined as the enemy. Man makes choices, and this creep has made his. He needs to learn to live with that. It sounds like the site author believes we are not allowed to examine HIS teachings. So, this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Israel had a dung gate, and they used it. Thus, we assign such dung as this fellow's lies to the dung gate also.
9. Pride and excessive devotion to the church.
Doug Malletts states: Which church? I want to know which local church I control, or which local church controls me. This jerk de jeur could not produce such a model in my regard if he were offered a million dollars to do so. Zip Zero. No church. Furthermore; I have several articles in the journal warning saints about pastors who take the family apart by demanding their services in church programs. I guess little Dougy failed to read enough. Tithing? Obviously, the liar has not been reading much at my site. He hates my KJV defense, so he read no further. Try this, Herr Jerkenheimer-- http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/tithing.htm
10. Emphases upon holy and righteous living.
Doug Malletts states: So, dear idiot-- Dress is an issue with even Liberals and the Pope. You just don't like the dress issues we discuss. Also, you will not find laws on dress on our site. You will find suggestions on the ladies' pages which I do not edit. They are there for the modest women to use if they like them. The whores you hang out with can ignore our web site, and we will not say a word about it. Finances-- zero on that at Blessed Quietness in 1500 articles. Ah, correction, I do prove that tithing laws are not for the Church Age-- sorry about that offensive teaching. Activities? What is that? Time spent? What on earth is that? Possessions? Where do we make laws on that? Relationships with others. Guilty-- we teach the saints to separate from those committed to prevarication, like you.
11. Double standards.
Doug Malletts states: PROVE ME GUILTY OF ANYTHING I TAUGHT SOMEONE NOT TO DO. In the mouth of two or three witnesses please. You have NO proof of that. It is classic false accusation, and the office of accuser of the brethren is taken already. You are serving Satan when you make accusations you cannot back up. Where are the standards on my site, and which ones do I distinguish for one saint and not another? You filthy creep. You lie and lie and lie, and you will lie about Bible believers until the Lord's Church is taken out, and then you will be left here to lie about Jews and anyone who is born again during the Great Tribulation. 2
Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed,
speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in
their own corruption; I am not sinless, and I deal with things that God shows me regularly, and sometimes I may not deal with some sin in my life in the right way. I make no claims of sinless perfection, and I make not personal demands on ANY saint, not even this accuser who attacked me. He can sin and go to hell just as fast as he wishes-- I just wish he would go quietly. Better yet, I wish he would examine himself and see the crass lies he tells are a beam he needs to deal with before he comes around here searching for the mote. If he is born again, he acts a lot like people I have known in my ministry in the past who were possessed of devils. He just does not think right. His mind seems twisted to the point where he cannot discern that he is doing service to Satan.
EXAMINE THE ACCUSER After attacking me as cultic and evil based on my stand on the King James Bible, read what this man says about anyone who is outside of HIS personal definition of Fundamentalism:
His is a smaller world than mine, for he has no fellowship with KJV Only Bible believers. I gather he also damns Reformed believers. He defends the use of the NIV and other bibles I gather. I have had some very good fellowship with KJV only Anglicans, and I had a Roman Catholic priest friend in Arizona who was cleansing his church house of crucifixes and preaching 45 minute sermons on Sunday. He was a modern Luther, and, though we were miles apart in some areas, I have more hope of seeing him in heaven than seeing Doug Mallett there. Liars, who KNOW they are lying, and do not repent, go to hell. ___________________________________ Babylon has never been destroyed in the manner described by the prophets. This fellow needs to do some more study. I wonder what he would do if modern day Babylon were handed to the Pope, by the UN and Iraq, as an international city for all world religions. What if the Pope, or some other world religious leader, moved to Babylon, in the model of Zechariah 5? Babylono
has been largely restored by Saddam Hussein, and is now being finished to become
a big tourist attraction. The Bible says that only owls and jackels will live
in Babylon when God finally blows it away: Babylon
is an industrial city today: ___________________________________ This man takes the Church age into Matthew 24, which is ONLY for the Jews:
The Old Testament dispensation ends AT THE END OF MATTHEW 23. Much chaos in prophecy teaching comes from using Matthew 24 to predict the Church Age events. ___________________________________ He "tends to lean" (as in waffling) on some issues:
___________________________________ He mocks at the possibility that people may need deliverance from devils. He uses the counterfeit aspects of the deliverance ministries of Charismania to exclude all deliverance as far as I can tell. There is some very subtle writing here. http://www.oaim.org/deliverance2.html#_Toc36807745 ___________________________________ He mocks at the possibility of generational curses, or, I gather, generational possession issues. Again, he uses Charismainiacs as if they are the only ones dealing with this. It is a good thing this yo yo does his counseling on the Internet. If he ever ended up in India or Haiti, he might well come running home to the US having taken a real thrashing as he tried to counsel the devils out of the possessed. http://www.oaim.org/deliverance.html ___________________________________ In a study of demon possession, these people claim the Bible calls it "demon possession." The King James Bible never uses the word demon. That is a Greek word which is distinct from the word, devil, the biblical KJV word. Some mongrel bible version is used on the page, but most of his other pages have the KJV. Why does he flee from the KJV? Answer: He is terrified of dealing with devils, at least that is what I have found in all other men who rush from "devil" to "demon" in this sort of discussion. The alleged study session runs to the Charismatics to find the enemy, and the Charismatics are heretic on the subject. But, that does NOT imply that the whole discussion of devil possession is over once we distinguish ourselves from Charismatics. These people are NOT dealing with the fact that devils had to be cast out as with the demoniac of Gaderra. In Ethiopia one fellow was possessed and was not delivered until the men of the church had sung hymns of the Blood of Christ for about five hours. In Tanzania, fetishes had to be burned before the devils would finally leave. In the California High Desert the young man who threw his mother clear across the living room was not delivered until we had warfare prayer in his home and helped him confess faith in Jesus Christ at the church house instead of his home. The real war involves casting out devils from both sinners and off of saints who get them like a dog gets fleas. The fact that these people do not want to deal with this, and they have a clever hermeneutic to bypass devil possession, feeds nicely into the hands of devils. Anyone coming to these people may never be delivered if they are possessed of devils. There ARE times when the devils talk and have to be confronted personally by the power of the Blood of Jesus Christ. I guess it boils down to where the real war is. Some people fight the battle with theological definitions and studies from a distance, while other saints war a good warfare where the devil has his strongholds. There is a lot on deliverance, and it is all mocking. Go to http://www.oaim.org/fyi.html Type "deliverance" into the search box, and see how much time they spend mocking at deliverance. This is classic form for most alleged Christian counselors. ___________________________________ Look at his Spiritual Warfare page. His is all study and self-centered, and ours starts from the Word of God and ends up on the battle field. I also note that this man is very good at short rounds in the back of people who are fighting the very same war he is. His problem is that he is using a butter knife and we are using a sword (the KJV). Poor fool. ___________________________________ I also tried to find out for sure who the author of the site is. It is very hard, and I am still not sure I found him. I had to dig through the site for a long time, and I came up with Doug Mallett. This still may not be the the site author. Almost all the people on the site hide behind pseudonyms, which points to something wrong. Why hide?
CONCLUSION: It appears to me that Doug Mallett is a Fundamentalist except for two issues. He uses funny bibles, and he wants a private interpretation on some prophecy issues and on deliverance from devils. This is classic form for many Fundamentalists. They want to be thought of as being on the narrow way, but they do not want to make their market for their book TOO narrow. So, they refuse to take a stand on the KJV and the history of the Greek texts, and they carve out a little private interpretation of their own so they can patent it and market it as something special. Same old hoochie kooch, same old rodeo. Been around for some time now. 1
Corinthians 4:10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we
are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.
And I warn Doug Mallett that if he keeps lying about Bible believers, and if he bases his attacks on their loyalty to the Word of God, he will catch a threshing from God. This seems like a waste of a life when there are all these people on the Internet whom he alleges are being helped by him. If that is the case, why not cut out the short rounds and go after the real enemy. Pass off the devils to us, and you take the mental cases, sin cases, etc. We will all keep very busy if we stick with the real enemy. You, sir, will also notice, if you do a sincere browse here, that we are NOT attacking and guruizing the little people. We attack the big boys who lead many into perdition, and we DEFEND the downtrodden and comfort the weak. We give attention to giving the saints much assurance and comfort. You missed that, and I really have NO hope you will recant. You are big stuff, but not big enough to admit you lied about me, and you are an offense aginst David Cloud also. Dear reader:
Blessings on you,
Doug Mallett. By the way, are you not the real Rambo here? You attacked in the classic Hollywood manner-- Kill and ask questions later. You never rebuked me in anything like the way you did on your web site. Big tough Rambo for Jesus-- Get your gun and come see me some time. I will put a load of buck shot where it will make a soprano of you. You, sir, have not got Blessed Quietness Journal linked at your site. Are you trying to hide the most recent material? I suspect so. If not, how about getting updated? http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/balaam.htm I close by answering your question:
You
liar. Nowhere in my journal do I even TRY to disassociate myself from the use,
defense, and promotion of the KJV as the ONLY Bible in English. You knew that,
but you tried to make me sound like I was ashamed of that. Well, READ, YOU BASTARD
LIAR-- Here are YOUR words:
Pride causes men to take another man out of context, twist his words, and make a devil of him. Why? So that YOU can rise higher. I sure hope you got a real boost in your ministry by twisting and perverting my words. If so, you can surely be proud of yourself. By being lied about, Steve Van Nattan (not the Holy Ghost) lifted up Doug Mallett. How can I complain if my sufferings for Christ should add to your glory? Don't worry, Be happy, Dougy baby.
DOUG
MALLETT'S CONFESSION OF SIN
END THOUGHT This is so depressing folks. When one is attacked in debate, or when someone defends themselves, that is tolerable, even instructional. Great men like Spurgeon and Martin Lloyd Jones are classic as defenders, and they welcomed confrontation when the adversary dealt with differences. But, to be brazenly lied about in the present model is enraging. Ahmed Deedat, Islamic guru from South Africa, used this device viciously. But, to receive a libelous attack from an alleged Fundamentalist is very puzzling indeed. We do not hold back in dealing with Fundamentalists who behave wickedly if it serves the saints to mark these men. But, we try very hard NOT to lie about them. Romans 16:17 (KJV) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Let me suggest you join me as I run for cover. I have tried to deal with this man's lies, but he will not retract them. He is, in the words of Spurgeon, "a popelet" who exalts himself to the office of accuser and judge. I am so thankful that my dear Savior and Lord is more willing to receive me in love than this fellow. If he were my lord, I would be damned to hell. Hebrews
12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see
the Lord: When I was a kid growing up in Africa there was a missionary who was hunting on the plains. He hated hyenas for some reason. They are indeed a bother, but they clean up death, and God created them for a good reason. They will eat virtually anything. Well, this missionary saw a hyena run by as he was stalking an animal, and he decided to shoot the hyena. He only gutted the thing, and as the hyena went loping off, it would turn and eat its own entrails as they spilled from its stomach. Lovely story, right? Sorry about that, but it reminds me of Fundamentalists. They devour one another. They NEED each other in the battle with cults, devils, the flesh, and the Whore Church. But, they are too chicken to go after these real enemies of Christ. So, these Fundamentalists mindlessly turn and devour one another. Check it out. Ask a Fundamentalist about another Fundamental church in the area and their pastor. The response will be a close examination of the other church's standards and fine points of doctrine. Hem lines too high, too cozy with Ruckman or Tennessee Temple, and a bit too Calvinist. Now, ask them about the nearby Orthodox Presbyterian, Evangelical Anglican, or the Reformed Episcopal church. They will blast them for being liberal, which they are not. They are old line Reformed, and some defend the KJV better than the person you are talking to. This person you are talking to will not have a clue what they believe. They are too busy gathering damning evidence for the prosecution of other Fundamentalists to learn what the OPC believes. Finally, how many Fundamental preachers do you know who have a Catholic priest friend? Hmmmmmmmm By the way, have you heard that Jesus was seen in the home of a Pharisee named Simon having a good time and eating dinner with him? We better look into that. Also, he spent a lot of time eating and drinking with government employees and sinners. And, I hear he had a revival meeting with those cultist in Mount Gerizim over in Samaria. Do you suppose he used their counterfeit version of the Scripture........... ? ______________________________ Update:
July 2009: I challenge Dougy Mallett to show, from the King James Bible, that our article on divorce is in error. One more interesting observation. Doug Mallett and I are about the only Bible believers on the Web who have posted very similar articles on masturbation. His attack on me shows how utterly insane some men are in trashing fellow soldiers in the battle for Truth. I gladly commend his article on masturbation. Selah
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