Teddy Roosevelt, San Juan Hill, Cuba
"A large leniency should be observed toward the man who uses
influences only to get himself a place near the flashing of the guns."
Teddy Roosevelt
THE WAR ROOM
QUOTES ON WARSome of these quotes will be serious, some sad, and some silly. I have included all sorts. Please help me with this page. Send contributions, with the source, to the email below.
| _________ | SOME QUOTES ON WAR "War
may sometimes be a necessary evil. Editor: Jimmy Carter was in the US Navy and did duty in submarines. His wisdom here is not that of a light weight Liberal. We in the Body of Christ must never see spiritual warfare as sport, as fun. I have met alleged believers who make sport of casting out devils and binding Satan etc. One young lady was a bit overweight. She was a member of a Charismatic church, but she liked to do things with our young adult group. One evening, after bowling, we went to Bob's Big Boy for ice cream. She was in a turmoil looking a the menu. She wanted a strawberry sundae, but she was trying to lose weight. She won her personal battle and ordered a salad. As the food was being prepared, she told me of something bothering her. She said that when she went to a restaurant with here Charismatic friends, they would order big high carb deserts, and then they would hold hands and pray, "In the name of Jesus Christ we bind the calories in this food." She asked me if this was the right thing to do. I gave here the verse, James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. She thanked me and enjoyed her salad a lot better after that. If you play with binding and resisting devils lightly, you will one day be running home naked like the seven sons of Sceva. (Acts 19) Spiritual warfare, like Carter's human warfare, is a necessary confrontation with evil, nothing better. "It
is well that war is so terrible - otherwise we would grow too fond of it." __________________________________ "War
is not its own end, except in some catastrophic slide into absolute damnation.
Editor: There is a peace that can be purchased at the expense of compromise with the enemy. This is the peace of the World Council of Churches and dropping doctrines we disagree on. Better to go to war, take your wounds, and deal death to the wicked, than this mongrel peace. That is why spiritual warfare is not an option to the Bible believer-- it is an ORDER from the Captain of our salvation. 1 Timothy 1:18 This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare; The peace that comes after the battle is far more precious than the peace of compromise and accommodation. __________________________________ "The
art of war is simple enough. Editor: All of Europe held back for years trying to placate and accommodate Adolph Hitler. England actually disarmed as Hitler armed Germany. Winston Churchill cried out for several years in Parliament that Germany was going to war. He was laughed at and mocked. Then, Hitler invaded Poland. All of England did an about face and cried out for Churchill, who was at once made Prime Minister. England and the allies won World War II, but what a price they paid for Europe's folly and timidity up front! When the enemies of our soul-- Satan, his devils, or wicked men-- rise up against our Lord's Church or defame the Word of God, hesitation to respond in spiritual warfare will only result in more casualties. Get on with it, and get it over with as soon as possible. I Samuel 17 is a great account of David and his lack of hesitation in the face of the enemy. __________________________________ "You
can't say that civilization don't advance, however, Editor: It is a sorry commentary that almost all great advances of mankind were either invented FOR war, or they were adapted TO war. War, sadly, is the ultimate testing ground of human inventiveness. Even the "space race" has turned into a war zone on high where a million eyes watch for a wrong move by the alleged enemy. Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? __________________________________ "I'm
fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in."
Editor: I agree 100%, but only if we are talking about human relations and political war policy. When it comes to the spiritual realm, we have a second factor-- we have another adversary: 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: A man eating lion will strike again and again, for he has developed a taste for human flesh. He is not just old and cannot catch other game. That is a myth. 85% of all man eaters have been found to be in good health. The only thing to do with a man eater is find him and kill him. That is the manner of our warfare with Satan and his servants. But, I think McGovern's thought is also useful. There are pastors who delight in finding adversaries out in the world of the flesh and the devil. These adversaries are often not making any trouble for the immediate local church, but these pastors will sic the church's young men on these adversaries in order to create some excitement. This is wicked. Such pastors ought to be tossed into a cage with a lion for an hour to see how much fun it is to start an unnecessary ruction. Luke 9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. __________________________________ "If
it's natural to kill, how come men have to go into training to learn how?"
Editor: This twit totally missed the point. There are adversaries who WILL kill us if we are not prepared to defend ourselves. This is why I carried a .38 all over southeastern Arizona in the '90s while going to tune pianos along the border with Mexico. That is the zone in which the violent illegals operate. About 50 miles north of the border, and on north, any illegals you find are looking for a job. Along the border in that 50 mile wide zone, there are many violent crimes committed by Mexicans, and the illegals run back across the line to safety. I did not carry a .38 because it was natural for me to want to kill Mexicans-- I carried it because it was natural for some Mexicans to want to kill ME, and Mrs. Van Nattan was eager to see me come home every night for supper. Thus it is with the Bible believer's warfare. We do not, or should not, have the old nature lust to destroy others for our own gain. But, we have spiritual adversaries who are hell bent on our destruction. So, we are told: Ephesians
6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the
wiles of the devil. And, if you are going to carry a weapon, you need to practice using it. That is why, from time to time, we all went out on a ranch in Arizona and did target practice. That is why, in Basic Training in the US Army, we were put through "live fire" in which real machine guns with real bullets were shooting over our heads, and grenades were going off all around us, as we crawled through barbed wire. If you let your Bible sit on the end table and never read it or study it, you will be easy to kill off in a spiritual fire fight with Satan's servants. A Mormon "missionary" or JW "witness" will pin your ears to the wall. That is also why a smart spiritual warrior will make himself somewhat familiar with the tactics of these adversaries. They all have different tactics, and they all mean to destroy souls. Buddhists, in their training period, have frequent sessions when the students are encouraged to attack the Buddhist senior leaders theologically. They fire attack after attack, slapping their hand to punctuate their logic. The senior monks have to answer instantly quoting Buddha or doctrinal logic. This goes on until the student runs out of gas, or the senior monk makes a slip in a quote. They all have a good laugh and seem to enjoy the thing. I think it would be fantastic training for these clever seminary professors and "great pillars of the faith" to have such sessions with their students. I have never heard of such a thing, but I would love to see it. Some of us who think we have all our cookies in a row would be humbled I think. Here is a place to start learing enemy tactics. __________________________________ "It
seems like such a terrible shame that innocent civilians have to get hurt in wars,
otherwise combat would be such a wonderfully healthy way to rid the human race
of unneeded trash." Editor: What can I say? War, that is, human political war, is stupid. It is a tribute to the wickedness in man. There is nothing noble about war. In the end, millions are dead, and more millions are maimed. What is noble about that? Woodworth above shows his arrogant lust for killing without any shame. But, there ARE some people that need to be eliminated. God sent Israel into Canaan, and he did not tell them to evict the wicked who lived there. God told them to kill the wicked, sometimes even the babies. That is because there ARE people who deserve only to be eliminated. In the dispensation of Grace it is just fine with me that we are not called to kill the wicked. I have never seen the glory in killing people. Even the death of a criminal for murder is pathetic. But, it is necessary to convince other wicked men that murder is not an option. A Vietnam Veteran responded to Woodworth's philosophy:
We dare not miss the victims or war and up in uniform by coercion or by making a poor choice in joining the military. Woodworth might be justified if only pathological killers were found in war zones. They could eliminate each other. But, the fact is, only a minority of soldiers actually lust for killing. The lust for death is often found more in high places where political wimps make strategies to eliminate people who are nonproductive. __________________________________ "No
country can act wisely simultaneously in every part of the globe at every moment
of time." Editor: Good old Henry the K. He could cover any stupidity or blunder with new speak. I do admire his ability to talk in circles and keep the listener in awe. He went to Paris to talk peace with the Vietnamese leaders, was thrashed soundly, and came away declaring peace and tranquility forever. The only victory the US got out of the Vietnam war was when Henry made the world believe the Vietnamese had agreed with him on everything. So, can the Bible believer talk his way out of his folly like Henry the K did? When does the Bible believer have a right to explain his actions as a liability of his fallibility? The saint is supposed to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit nowhere says that God cannot act wisely in every part of the globe at every moment of time. The warrior of Christ MUST act on the assumption that he is able, with God's help, to be right 100% of the time. When he isn't, he must own up to it, and take the responsibility for it. Modern politicians , even worse than in the past, never admit guilt or error. If they do, they are never forgiven, they are leprous for the rest of their life. People no longer consider it noble in a leader to admit error or guile. All of society are like this. I cannot recall the last time I heard a preacher apologize for something. We must have all become infallible like the Pope (which he ain't). A warrior of Christ takes responsibility for his actions. Only such a man is worthy of our trust. Here is Paul's own statement which left God as his only resource as a Christian warrior: Romans
7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for
to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
You, Christian warrior, CAN get it right if you know how utterly helpless you are in your flesh, and how prone you are to exalt yourself. At that point, the Holy Ghost can take charge and direct you, in the battle of the faith, to victory. One more note on Henry Kissinger's comment above. The United States has, for about 50 years, been trying to meddle with the affairs of nearly every nation on earth. We have troops in over 150 countries. The USA has far too great a national ego for its own good, and the world at large is getting tired of our meddling and mucking up their affairs. The Christian warrior is the same. We can take on way too much to ourselves. It is far better to do one thing right than to do ten things badly. Preachers should read that last sentence again please. In world history, there has been no such thing as a one man war since David slew Goliath. __________________________________ �You
cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.� God does not think it is cute for a people to be given to war: Psalms 68:30 (KJV) Rebuke the company of spearmen, the multitude of the bulls, with the calves of the people, till every one submit himself with pieces of silver: scatter thou the people that delight in war. This is the warfare of human relations-- political war for whatever reason. There is a time for defense of one's country and family, as David learned: Psalms 120:7 (KJV) I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. It is important to understand that when the USA goes to war these days, there is always a cover to justify that war. It is "weapons of mass destruction," or it is some other perceived threat. But, the fact is, the USA has become a nation dependent on war for its economy to survive in two ways; War, after it is over, leaves the USA in a nation conquered to the financial advantage of US bankers and oil companies. Also, war, as it is progress, uses up weapons and ammunition which must be replaced for the next war. This gives thousands of Americans jobs. This is a wicked nation now days, for we have made sport and business of war. It has nothing to do with defense of Americans. In Christ, that is, after we are adopted and placed in the family of God, we find that we are at war. This is not physical war-- it is spiritual war. We have no choice in the matter. When a person is born again and confesses Christ before men openly, he goes on Satan's hit list whether he likes it or not. He may also go on his family and nation's hit list, as with Islamic nations. 2 Corinthians 10:3 (KJV) For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 1
Timothy 1:18 (KJV) This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the
prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;
1 Peter 5:8 (KJV) Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Ephesians 6:13 (KJV) Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 1
John 5:4 (KJV) For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is
the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Jude 1:3 (KJV) Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Ephesians 6:12 (KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 1 Thessalonians 5:6 (KJV) Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. __________________________________ �Naturally
the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America,
nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country
who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along,
whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding
of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country
to danger. It works the same in any country.� American Christians need to remember 9/11. Before the towers fell, the pacifist voices were dominating in the nation. The military was seen as expensive and over rated. People, generally, did not believe America was in peril. After the towers fell, or were demolished by stealth, there were little US flags flying on every SUV in the USA Suddenly, Americans BELIEVED in war. The most frightening thing to me was to hear the war rhetoric in the church foyer. Whoever masterminded 9/11 did EXACTLY what Hermann Goering was predicting. Soon, I believe there will be another such "attack" on the USA. It will be massive. A city will be nuked, or the US Capitol building will be blown away as the Reichstadt Building was by Hitler. The result will be a horrendous rage and lust for revenge, which will be exactly what the Hidden Hand wants. Will you, dear saint, be suckered into this rage for war and killing? It is all about control. The people of the USA are becoming polarized into about five territories mentally and emotionally. These are, The deep South with its continuing distrust of Yankees, the Southwest with its lust to be left alone to make its own way, Middle America with its gut distrust of Liberals, New England, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota with their panty waste feminized mind to submit, and Washington DC where all men cave in and obey the Hidden Hand from above. Only a massive attack from an alleged rogue nation will unite the USA again, and I KNOW it will happen. Will YOU be suckered in too, or will you stand in awe...... Psalms
4:3 (KJV) But know that the LORD hath set apart him that is godly for himself:
the LORD will hear when I call unto him. It is high time some alleged Bible believers do their own thinking instead of this knee jerk response to patriotic propaganda. What Goering said in the above quote was so precisely what happened in 9/11 that it is terrifying. The student of the Word of God ought to be able to see through these devices of politicians and potentates. In fact, there is no greater auto-response to patriotic propaganda, to fabricated threats, than in Fundamental Baptist and Charismatic churches. This is a wicked generation, a stupid ignorant generation. We read books of the Germans who resisted Hitler, who declined to kill Jews, and we exalt those who refused killing as heroes. But, when our US leaders define an adversary far away, one whom we cannot possibly prove to ourselves is really a threat, we scream for blood from out pulpits. It was the same in 1776, the Civil War, WW I, WW II, and all the US wars since then. All wars since WW II have been based on fabrications and bluster. The US Civil War was a wicked stupid war also. Even the war of 1776 was a rebellion against the king, which God forbids in the Old and New Testament. Only WW II was a clear case of the need for war to stop evil without another option. Even so, the bankers and internationalists made a lot of good profit on that war also. I will tell you why you and a lot of other simple minded saints can justify the wars of the USA-- it is because we won them. History is always written by those who win the war. They define that war on their terms, and the patriotic citizens will be taught it in school and believe it. War is evil unless it is the spiritual warfare between the Bible believer and Satan and his helpers. When will American Christians understand that national war and spiritual warfare are mutually exclusive events? Galatians
5:22 (KJV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness,
goodness, faith, __________________________________ �The
object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die
for his.� It is important to understand that men who make war give up a piece of their soul. They are never the same because they are trained killers, and they kill on command. This is a great abnormality in the eyes of God. It was not his invention, it was Cain's. Men like Patton become like animals in their thinking-- they must, or they will be killed. Be very sure you are in God's will if you join the US Military voluntarily. Here is a lie by the same man: �Nobody
ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack
some more.� Patton was dead wrong. Switzerland has defended itself against invasion for three hundred years, and they have never had to go on the offensive. Military men are about 75% bluster, bombast, and bull. Learn to examine their words with a King James Bible in your hand. Here is how a smart aleck General Patton prayed:
To
you jackboot knee jerk Fundamental Baptists who wrap the Bible in the American
flag, I say, Psalms
94:8 (KJV) Understand, ye brutish among the people: and ye fools, when will ye
be wise?
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