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many independent Baptists are overweight, many are literal buffoons, playing with
the Militia, Bo Gritz, yannis and greys, and in general, any screwy thing they
can lay their hands on-- anything but serving the saints, feeding sheep, and STUDY
the Word of God.
Steve, Just read about the truck driver who was afraid to come into church after those guys at another church wouldn't let him in without a tie. Same thing happened to me in 1974, the Sunday after I graduated from Indian Creek Jr. High in Trafalgar, Indiana. I had on the new white dress shirt, black dress pants, new shoes that I wore on my graduation that Friday afternoon, and when I got off the church bus Sunday morning at ____________ Baptist Church near my home in ___________, Indiana, I was stopped by the pastor, name of P________, who told me I was "indecent" because I didn't have a tie. Now, this is the wrong thing to do to a then-14 year old teenager. He embarrassed me right in front of the whole church. I WALKED the entire five miles back home and told my dad what he'd done. Dad worked him over pretty good when the sorry rat came back on "visitation" later that week, and he threatened to have him arrested if he ever came back. This nearly turned me forever against Christianity. I didn't accept Christ until 1980, when I was an Airman stationed in Oklahoma. I moved to Tennessee in 1985, and it was here I met my wife. We were married in another Independent Fundamentalist Baptist church here, _______ Baptist, in 1988. The preacher remarked, "Why, we've done plenty of 'poor' weddings!", which was an obvious slam against me as I was employed as a Security Guard at the time and didn't make a whole lot of money. Eventually, they goaded me into going to Tennessee Temple University in Chattanooga, and I got so sick of Independent Baptists I eventually just gave up and quit. In 1992, I wound up with pneumonia and my wife would go pick up my class work and I'd do this at home to keep my grades up. I finished that year with a B- or C. I had made the proper arrangements with the school because of my illness so I wouldn't get demerits for not being in church and chapel. Well, lo and behold! I get back to my home town after school was out and go back to _________ Baptist, and that weasel, Bob __________, the assistant pastor, SLANDERED me from the pulpit in front of the entire congregation for 'not obeying the rules of Tennessee Temple.." That was the last straw. I caught him outside and busted him in the mouth and told him what a liar he was. I never went back to TTU, and have never set foot inside another Independent Baptist church again! We eventually joined the Southern Baptist church I previously attended, and have been there ever since. I stopped going there for a time because some of the miscreants from _________ Baptist followed me, and started spreading malicious gossip about me at our new church. I told the pastor if he didn't want a slander suit on his hands he'd better "counsel" certain loose-tongued members or all Hell would shortly break loose. He promptly kicked these people out and I have had no further problems. These whacko fascist fundamentalists make me sick. They nearly caused me to reject Christ with their legalism. I'm currently researching for a short book about these UN-Christian fundamentalists, and would love to hear from ANYONE who's had these sorts of experiences in Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches! I love your site. You hit it right dead center! Regards,
I think We at Blessed Quietness Journal are seeking the Lord's mind in suggesting an alternative to the mongrel deformities now prevailing in the Baptist movement. It is a historical FACT that Christ built his Church for almost 2000 years, and the Baptists only have existed since about 1650 AD. They lie about this and claim anyone who was doctrinally sound all the way back to John the Baptist. I fully expect some jackboot jerkenheimer, with a mail order doctorate in Bubtist, to soon claim Moses was the first Baptist. After all, did he not baptize the Hebrews in the Red Sea? We need to close the chapter headed "Baptist," and move on as Christ shows us the fellowship of true narrow way saints who walk in humility and grace in the Holy Ghost. |
Give a Wide Berth to the USS Baptist Bull Horn
Two things have happened recently which call for an observation on another strange phenomenon happening in Fundamental Baptist and Pentecostal circles.
STORY ONE:
A friend of ours, looking for a church to pastor, went to preach in a church in an area which will go un-named. Our friend has always been a zealous Bible teacher. Well, after he had preached, the men of the church told him they liked his teaching, but they wanted a man who was more forceful in the pulpit. By this they meant, hollering, yelling, and spitting all over the folks in the front row.STORY TWO:
Another example of this came in last week in which a doctrinaire Atheist told how he came to be born again, got onto the narrow way, even learned the hard way about the textual issue and defense of the King James Bible. He visited some dead denominational churches and gave up on them. So, he went to seek out Fundamental Baptist churches since he had learned from reading several books that they were defenders of the KJV.He found that every one of them was ego maniac about Baptist Heritage, and he also learned that they spent a lot of time hollering and yelling like they were mad at someone. The Baptist Heritage thing grossed him out because he has always been a research oriented person, and he was already a student of church history as an Atheist. His further studies after salvation extended his knowledge, and when he was told that John the Baptist was the first Baptist, he nearly threw up. The other thing he could not understand was all the screaming and yelling and bawdy talk.
I will now tell you what is happening. Fundamental Baptist Jackboot preachers do NOT have a leg to stand on with regard to this Baptist Heritage thing. Real researched history, BY MEN FAVORABLE TO THE ANABAPTISTS, proves that the name Baptist, as applied to a movement, was not used until AFTER the Anabaptists were starting to be washed out by compromise and legalism. Thus, about 1650 at the earliest. Before the Anabaptist era there were NO Baptists. It takes a gullible fool to make a Waldensean, Abergensian, or a Donatist into a Baptist. If you can do that, can you also make lead into gold. It would take just as much alchemy, or devilment.
So, when you have a Mother Goose fairy tale history, and, may I add, when you won't study for your sermons and research your claims, you have to raise your voice. The Jackboot preacher is really trying to yell and scream loud enough so that you will be overwhelmed by the hubris and adrenal frenzy of the moment, and hope that your brain does not go into gear. It worked for Adolph Hitler and Fidel Castro, and it works with the average dumbed down Baptist in the pew. He submits to Mother Goose. Have you also kissed your brain bye bye, friend?
There is another factor compounding this problem. Many Fundamental Baptist preachers have learned, from attending preacher's conferences and rallies, that you can be the center of attention if you are loud and project a powerful force of presence. It works, in the foyer, at the noon meal dinner table, in the parking lot, and even downtown when you meet some other leader or Christian. Our family has gotten pretty good at identifying Fundamental Baptist and Pentecostal preachers in the market place. They spew and roar around in their dumpy overstuffed suit, and they are the center of attention. If they only knew what the ungodly think of them!
Now, I want you to think of the USS Baptist Blimp or Pentecostal preacher you know like this. Next time you see him in action, ask yourself, "Can I superimpose Jesus Christ over this man right now?" Would Jesus, or Paul, be behaving like this in Caperneum or Nazareth. Was this the manner of Paul up on Mars Hill in Athens? In this matter, you cannot tell a particle of difference between a Fundamental Baptist and a Pentecostal Type AAA.
So, my dear friend, as you start your House Church, PLEASE shuck off this rowdy noisy approach to Christian zeal. Ask yourself often, "If Jesus came through the door of our House Church right now, would He put His hands over His ears, or even turn and walk right back out the door?"
Proverbs 17:1 Better is a dry morsel, and quietness therewith, than an house full of sacrifices with strife.
Eccl. 4:6 Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.
Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Eccl. 9:17 The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.
Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
It is OK to sing with exaltation unto God. But noise and hollering is NOT part of biblical praise.
1 Thessalonians 4:10 And indeed ye do it toward all the brethren which are in all Macedonia: but we beseech you, brethren, that ye increase more and more;
11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.
So, in context, we see that increasing more and more does NOT mean getting louder and louder, and we also see that being a blessing to "them that are without" will NOT include screaming and spewing in their face.
1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
One thing is worse than a USS Baptist Bull Horn-- That is, a hollering and bawdy Baptist woman. This is the ultimate devilish side show and will drive off any thinking saint or sinner alike.
TO YOU QUIET PREACHERS:
Let me end this item with an observation. We have made a good number of friends in the past who were NOT the rowdy type. They sure did have zeal, and they preached with force of the Spirit of God in their manner in the pulpit. But, they were not this loud offensive type. There still are men like this, and to you who are such, I can only say, don't let this trend of noise and rage change you. We are NOT under obligation to prove our zeal to anyone.
Our zeal is to be the work of the Holy Ghost, so it should not be turned on and off to accomplish the needs of our punisimous egos. Let us walk circumspectly. Let us not offend the quiet people. They may be some of our most faithful and thoughtful people. If we drive them off by yelling in their faces, we could one day have nothing left but a convention of buffoon's.
Leodicean Christianity and Jackboot preachers
During the 1960s and 1970s, many Bible believing churches were taken over by "the rule of the people," which is what "Leodicean" means in Revelation 3. Churches threw pastors away in record numbers, and the stories of brutality were beyond belief. I knew of one pastor who was voted out after he went home Sunday evening, and Monday morning the Marshall and a couple of deacons were at the parsonage door giving him the minimum notice to get out of the parsonage.
Well, things have changed. A new meaner and leaner breed of preachers has evolved who are masters at whipping the flock of God lest they rise up against them. Now, we have preachers who are PART OF the Laodicean mess. Now, the people in the pew AND their pastor have a "rule of the people" arrangement. The people are guruized by the preacher, and the preacher makes very sure to teach, by warping the Word of God in his favor, that he is the center of all church life and practice.
Thus, every soul in one of these Laodicean churches is clear out from under the final authority of the Lord Jesus Christ. They give Jesus lip service, but they do not really want His Lordship over them. We must note the Laodicean destiny which Jesus promised these people:
Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
We see that these people are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked. They are a total mess, and you cannot convince them to change. You will waste you breath trying to convince them that they have erred. They have to figure it out for themselves, and very few ever will. This is the last church age, and these Jackboots and their guruized followers will soon enter the Great Tribulation.
"What," you say, "Fundamental Baptists and Pentecostals.... Going into the Great Tribulation and to hell?" Right! What better way to deceive the world than with old fashioned KJV Only Bible thumping which is designed by Satan to exalt man? Our friend and street preacher, Rich McIntire, said before he died, that he felt the Antichrist would come on the scene carrying a King James Bible. We saw Bill Clinton, in several photo ops, walking out of the Methodist Church where the preacher said Jesus was a queer, carrying a King James Bible. If you think the KJV Only standard in many of these Jackboot churches is some consolation, I have some fantastic ocean front property I want to sell you just 40 miles due east of Miami, Florida.
For the record, I am KJB Only with zero tolerance for funny bibles, but friend, you better not leave it at that.
That Jackboot preacher who is bashing sheep in your neighborhood is a type of the Antichrist, for, in the Name of Christ, he is making a little god of himself. The church which would follow him has had its candle stick removed by Jesus, they have been "spued," and they are post-Christian-- sub-Christian. You owe them nothing but mighty rebuke.
You
better get this right friend. The Jackboot Baptist church and its pastor have
put Jesus Christ on the OUTSIDE of the local church, and they are damned to hell.
No other church, messed up as it was in Revelation 2-3, had Jesus standing on
the OUTSIDE of the church. This includes the Roman Whore age in Chapter Two (Thyatira--
Rev. 3:18-29). Some of you won't like that, but I can tell you that I have a Catholic
priest friend who is far less self-exalting than the average Jackboot pastor I
have had to deal with. The Catholic Church has Jezebel inside their church, but
they don't have the measure of Satan that Laodicea does. Check it out. This does
not mean that my Catholic priest friend is born again, but the point is, Laodiceans
are mad with self-love. Many of them make Robert Schuler look paranoid. Their
pastor may very likely be demon possessed and was never born again.
END THOUGHTS
The average Fundamental Baptist preacher today defines the righteous, backslidden, or the wicked in terms of two things:
1. A necessary proof text to set the stage for the kill.
2. "And they left us six months ago," which being interpreted means, they are disloyal to the Jackboot First Sergeant.
You wonder why I said, "righteous, backslidden, or the wicked" don't you? Well, if you leave one of the churches of these jackboot boys, for any reason they do not approve, it matters not whether you are born again or lost-- YOU are to blame, and YOU are the traitor. YOU have left the virtual Fundamental Baptist epicenter of truth and glory. So, YOU are the wicked boogie man, whether you are backslidden or right with God.
Dear Lord, deliver us all from being this kind of hireling to your people. I find very little difference between the average Eastern mystic guru and the vast majority of Fundamental Baptist pastors. The Eastern guru differs only in that he is not saved. In every other way the two are the same animal. I hasten to add also that about 99.5% of all Pentecostal and Charismatic pastors behave in the same fashion. I also suspect many of them are NOT saved.
So, by the grace of God, I have no further need to identify with Fundamentalism and the Baptist variety in particular. I am going nowhere-- I stay where I have been for all my days of serving the Lord-- a slave of Christ, and a servant of His sheep. It is these Jackboot hirelings who have gone somewhere.
1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Recently, I have heard of men who adopted the mentality of Adolph Hitler. Hitler saw that he was going to lose the war, so he punished the German people for what he took to be disloyalty, and he refused to capitulate. Instead, he drove the Germans on and on until Germany was reduced to cinders, and then he killed himself (or fled as some have conjectured).
Some of these Jackboot Baptists see that their local church is dwindling, and they are too proud to examine their own life to see, "if there be any wicked way in me." They decide the people of the local church have let them down or are disloyal, and they pound the people until finally all have left. In the end, they decide the church house and the entity of that local church is unworthy of their lofty view of themselves, and they manipulate the property into their personal control and flog it cheap to some cult. They take the proceeds, and they head for other parts under the pretext that, "We are going to start a new work for the Lord." There often is never a real local church planted, and the cash seems to disappear into deep pockets of "good godly friends" and their own family.
These same Jackboot preachers will mock and rage at TBN and Benny Hinn for their posh facilities and vast wealth which was skimmed off of their followers by stealth, yet these Jackboots think their dissolution of the church property into their pickets is somehow worthy of the Carpenter of Nazareth. Hmmmmm
I conclude with one last observation.
This is the end of the Philadelphian Church Age, and we are well into the Laodicean Whore church Age. I do believe that Satan has seduced these Fundamental Baptists with lust for power and self-will, money, food, and sex. I must conclude that many of them were never born again. Yes, that is what you read. I believe the last and greatest deception is this. A pastor, trained in a Fundamental Baptist school, with a King James Bible waving in the air, spewing and flailing like a broken record, and with a spit shined Marine troop of short haired Jackboot deacons-- And, this pastor has never been born again.
With all their warts, I am far more interested in the old gravely self-effacing manners of a thousand ordinary pastors around the world who shuffle in the door Sunday morning with their heart full-- ready to teach. These men have the confidence that their friends at the church house will get on just fine with the Lord Jesus Christ as their only Head and the Holy Ghost as their instructor.
Watch out for Hirelings. Many of them will not be entering into the ark with us.
2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
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RECENT UPDATE:
I believe that millions of devils have abandoned the New Age Movement and Satanist groups and have gone to church. In the 1970s and 80s I heard many accounts of New Age activity and was in battle with devils tormenting people who eventually were born again. And, our local church in California and Michigan was attacked directly by devils in certain people. Over recent years I have been hearing almost nothing about the New Age Movement, and One World mystics I had been watching have faded into obscurity.
I am 100% convinced, based on all the horrid tales or torture, mayhem, and aggravation directed at local church members by jackboot pastors, that many Fundamental pastors are not only unsaved-- they are possessed with devils and like it that way. I believe that at some point about 30 years ago, Satan started sending his imps to Bible College-- not Evangelical or Liberal colleges, but Satan sent his devils in young men who were unsaved to Fundamental Baptist colleges like Tennessee Temple, Bob Jones U, BIOLA, Hyles Anderson, etc. These men played the game and graduated and come highly recommended by the college. They get into local churches, and they go to work dumbing down the saints by avoiding exposition of the Word of God, while they roar and rage about "Baptist Standards" and tithing. They build numbers, become in demand, and rise to high places where they influence many other pastors. They are filthy in their personal lives, and they are brutes. They are Satan's helpers.
It
is imperative that Bible believers, especially Christian fathers, examine the
conduct, preaching, and testimony of pastors they sit under. If they do not measure
up to the standard of the Apostle Paul, especially in First and Second Timothy
and Titus, then these Bible believers MUST leave these churches. Find another
fellowship, or start a house church. It is better to be alone by the brook Cherith
eating a limited diet from the King James Bible than to be sitting in a large
local church watching a Gospel bull fight and having your family brutalized and
mentally molested by a devil possessed preacher.
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