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"JESUS" MOSQUES AND MUSLIM CHRISTIANS
Southern Baptist Syncrestist
Compromise Damns Souls

 

Please notice the crescent of a moon with the round star above it. The five pointed star is a modern innovation. The star is known in Babylon as Ishtar and Ashtart, and was known in Saba as Atar. The moon was Allat in Mecca, while the star was Al Uzza, a very local lady. These two goddesses are the origins of the star and crescent of Islam.

Allah was the solar deity, though that fact was not really on anyone's mind in 625 AD by the time Mohammed got his "revelations." Nevertheless; the ancient heritage of the astral deities was strictly Babylonian.  Allat was the moon goddess and Allah was the sun god.  Allah was the phallic image, and Allat was the vaginal deity.  This is seen graphically in the point and circle, and square and compass, of Freemasonry as well as in the ancient May pole and in the obelisk erected in a circular setting, as with the Washington monument.  This imagery was very very common in the epigraphic and graphic carvings in stone and clay tablets on the Euphrates cultures for 4000 years.

To gain a full grasp of the supreme blasphemy of mixing the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Islamic teachings, one needs to see that Islam and Allah are derived directly from Babylon, and even further back in history, from the Nimrodic-Sumerian cult at the tower of Babel.  Allah is the consort / husband of Allat, the higher power of Arabia until Mohammed trashed her and raised her husband to monotheistic godhead.  This is FACT, and I have proved it with airtight research and a bibliography of nearly 300 sources in the above book.  

Of course, many saints and secularists have enough understanding of Islam and its libido crazed prophet, Mohammed, to see that Mohammed and Jesus are mutually exclusive.  The mosques of Islam, from the Dome of the Rock to the mosques of Dearborn, Michigan, are the exalted and exclusive symbol of the conquest of the Kaffir, Dar ul Harb, the name for those pagans (especially Christians) who reject Islam and deserve nothing but to have their throats slit.  When Southern Baptist missionaries consider the Islamic mosque a venue of the Lord's Church, this is the most exquisite of blasphemies.  It is like asking the Pope to hold a High Mass in a toilet.  

In the light of these FACTS, we now give you the story of Southern Baptist missions, 1997.

 

Of "Jesus" Mosques and Muslim Christians

Are mosques for Muslim believers in Christ a form of syncretism, or is God doing something we need to take off our cultural blinders to see?

Quote from one of the world's most Satanic men, Southern Baptist Mullah, Avery Willis--

"Does the look of a building make a difference?  Does how you kneel make a difference, or that you pray five times a day, if you TRANSFER that into a Christian CONTEXT?  We need to STRUGGLE with that.  God is doing a work in the people of other religions; a lot is going on in Islam.  When we get past the gatekeepers (read that, Bible believers) and among the people, they respond to Jesus.  If Jesus is Lord, that's what it's all about."

The above title is given to an article in the July October issue of Mission Frontiers Bulletin.  This filthy rag was hatched by the US Center of World Mission at Old Mother Whore-- Fuller Seminary by Ralph Winter.  They use every issue to introduce ecumenical one world power plays around the globe designed to draw all mission work under one consensus as we draw closer to the day of the Anti-christ's kingdom.

On page 19 of the latest issue of MFB, the article under the above title begins thus...

"They leave their shoes at the door, and ritually wash their hands, feet, and heads.  They kneel on mats in unison and bow their heads to the ground.  They recite chants in Arabic, pray five times a day, and worship on Friday, not Sunday.

"These Muslims look and sound like other Muslims the world over.  Except they worship the God of the Bible, believe Jesus in the Messiah and only source of salvation, and follow His.  When they pray, they face Jerusalem, not Mecca."

Let us discuss this hybrid before we lose the thought.  There is NO sense here that there was any repentance for past blasphemies of Christ and there is no turning from sin to Christ in faith for only His salvation.  There us no denying of Mohammed.  The Kibla  (direction to face when praying) of Islam was first designated by Mohammed, in 625 AD, as Jerusalem.  Later, when the Jews in Arabia would not follow Mohammed, in revenge, he moved the Kibla to Mecca.  So, this Southern Baptist Kibla in Benin is simply a Muslim revivalist move which most Mullahs could tolerate.

Worst of all, there was no baptism mentioned.  Aside from the departure from core Southern Baptist creedal code, the lack of baptism shouts, "False Faith" to all true Christians in Muslim lands, for baptism is the ultimate symbol of a break with Islam to both the Mullahs and the Lord's Church.  A Mullah will not stop trying to win a new Christian back to Islam in Indonesia or Saudi Arabia for example, until that saint is baptized.  After baptism, they will kill the new Christian at once.

Elizabeth (her newly chosen Christian name) was from an elite ruling family in southeast Asia.  In the USA and in university, she was lead to Christ by Christian friends.  Her first symbolic act to show her willingness to follow Christ and die for Him was to remove her Islamic chakhur (total body covering) and use Western dress.  Her second and final act of breaking with Islam, though she was born again and could tell you how, was baptism.  She was actually sprinkled by a Reformed Anglican pastor, good KJV man at that, and it was far more emotional a moment in her life than her actual conversion point.  Why?  Answer:  To the Muslim world she became a Kaffir (heathen) for life.  Her family would at once hire a hit man to hunt her and kill her.  She dare not ever return to her home and nation.  She would lose ALL of her past life, and she was now dead to her whole family and heritage.  She was essentially a nobody.  From the ruling casts to the gutter with a few drops of water.  I believe immersion is the correct mode of baptism, but when that Anglican pastor told me this story, knowing what Elizabeth was experiencing, I felt I had not possibly known what it meant to pay the ultimate price.  My all for a dribble of water?  I wept and wondered friends.  Elizabeth was not saved by water, and the Anglican pastor made sure she knew that, but, to Islam and Middle Eastern Christians, baptism is THE landmark-- the point of no return.  Salman Rushdie has more chance of being forgiven by the Mullahs than Elizabeth.  

Where is the baptistery in the "Jesus" mosque?????????  Can you imagine Elizabeth shuffling back into an Islamic mosque ANYWHERE?

We continue to quote the above article in MFB:

"Missionaries Alejandro and Bertha Ortiz, searching for ways to spread the gospel among Muslims in Benin, felt led by the Lord to start such a place of worship, a different kind of mosque.  It has helped them reach into the Muslim community.  They believe it will help new believers in Christ-- who feel out of place in traditional Christian churches-- grow in their faith, and pass it on in their own Muslim culture without being summarily rejected and cast out of their community."

"The Ortizes fledgling house of worship is not the only such place in the Muslim world.  'Jesus mosques,' as they sometimes are called, also can be found in the Middle East and Asia.  In one Muslim nation, more than 100,000 Muslims reportedly worship Jesus as Messiah in 100-plus mosques.  Some 'Jesus mosques' start from scratch, like the Ortizes' initiative.  Others are traditional mosques transformed by Muslims who embrace Jesus as Lord.  In still other cases, individual followers of Christ remain in typical mosques, quietly worshipping God as they seek to be 'salt and light' among Muslims."

I ask you one thing-- Why did not Paul use the Temple of Diana of the Ephesians as a re-worked church house?  It would have no doubt greatly reduced the hatred of the Ephesians for the Christians.  Paul would have had many more converts since they would not have to pay the ultimate price.  Why didn't Peter Cameron Scott and Roland Bingham of Africa use the witch doctor's hut as the new house of worship at the turn of the century?  The church would have been relieved of the tension of cultural change, and the message would have been much more readily received by the people.  Think what troubles William Carey and Sadhu Sunder Singh would have avoided if they had started churches in the temples of Kali and Shiva.

Dumb question, eh?  So, what makes a mosque different?  There is NO difference.  Islam is 100% pagan, but these SBC flakes don't see that.  Thus, we are forced to assume that the Ortizes, along with ALL who exalt them, are NOT born again, for, if they were, they would be revolted by the thought of such a compromise with Satan himself.  Next time some Brownsville flake tells you he saw the devil last night and slapped him up side of the head with a wet shingle, tell him that is impossible.  Satan, that one eyed Dajjal, is running from mosque to mosque in the Middle East roaring with laughter as wanna-be Christianettes, and their SBC mentors, fill mosques with insipid Fuller-type christology.  If I were in a less sanctified mood, I should say they were damned fools... You know, I think they ARE damned fools-- in the most literal sense.

I also note that any true believer in The Lord Jesus Christ exclusively would NEVER be tolerated by the Sheiks and Mullahs of Islam.  This has always been true, and NOTHING has changed.  So, these "Jesus mosque" hybrids are NOT born again.  They have added Jesus to Mohammed, and Allah is still their god.  John MacArthur once tried to lead a Muslim to Christ.  John worked hard and long to make sure the Muslim understood.  Finally, John thought the fellow understood , and John asked him if he would like to pray to God in belief in Jesus Christ?  Answer:  "Yes."  So John helped him in this praying.  John said it seemed like all went very well with some real conviction of sin etc.  But, as the Muslim rose to his feet, and with great emotion, he said, "This is wonderful, for now I have Jesus AND Mohammed."  John said that in a total sense terror he made the fellow sit down and start all over.  I don't recall the ending, but this shows how the Muslim thinks.  He thinks he can have Jesus, Jesus is good, Jesus is even my Savior.  But, to deny Mohammed and Allah is the supreme catch.  THAT, dear friends, is why the missionary you supported to Muslims had maybe three converts in 40 years.  The Ortizes simply did not want to pay the price-- they were not born again, and they could not take the New Testament model as their guide.  Let's face it-- the Ortizes are lazy and prone to take short cuts.

In Dearborn, Michigan, Victor Kahlil, missionary to Muslims, also had the same problem these SBC missionaries encountered.  Victor had grown up in a Egypt, so he knew how it felt to lose all for Christ.  Victor had another solution.  First, he took the Muslim convert into his home.  He had a basement apartment furnished for the new convert to use for a number of weeks until he got re-established.  Even in the USA the Muslim-turned-saint would certainly be an outcast socially.  His family would disown him.  He could lose his job, and he could even be attacked physically. Victor carried the new saint through this period.  The key to this effort was that Victor established the new saint in a Bible believing local church where he would be loved in Christ.   AND, it worked.  If you were to suggest to any missionary to Arabs, who was a convert from Islam himself, that he take the new saint around to the mosque to pray toward Jerusalem, he would show you the door and break all communication with you.  Why?  They fear scummy wimps like a plague.  They, unlike the Ortizes, have suffered and now shine for Jesus, and they are not about to run back to the mosque and raise their fannies for Allah.  I DO know of a missionary to Muslims who would take his Muslim convert around to the mosque at a time when it was empty, and the new convert would denounce the mosque and curse it in the Name of Jesus.

A comment is needed on this staying in the mosque and being "salt and light" to Muslims.  Why don't we let the converted whores stay in the nightclub and be "salt and light" to good old boys?  How about sending the Mormon converts back to the Salt Lake Temple to be "salt and light" as they have their private parts washed by the priests?  Or, let us consider leaving the Moonie-turned-saint in the old system to drink Mr. Moon's blood at communion and be married by him so that they can be "salt and light?"  Nutty as a fruit cake my friends, as is the mosque turned church house.  Even the old Jewish synagogue was condemned by Jesus Christ in Revelation 2:9 ".....I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."  So, if the synagogue of the Jews was damned by Jesus-- the synagogue where the canon of God's Word resided-- then what of this mongrel mosque????

The above article in MFB did give the dissenting opinion of one man, Warren Chastain-- from Zwemmer Institute, and we commend the man for taking this stand:

"It is syncretism.  The motivation is good, but the price you pay is too high.  You're making Mohammed another of the religious authorities-- someone besides Jesus and the apostles setting up your practice and theology for the Church."  When asked, "Why not become a Muslim to the Muslims?"  Chastain answered, "Because Paul didn't compromise with any of the pagan deities or false religions, whether Jewish or Greek.  You didn't find Paul starting a Jesus-Diana temple or a Jesus-Apollo temple.  A Christian mosque is neither fish nor fowl.  It confuses Christian converts and outrages Islamic leaders who see it as a deceptive lure for ignorant Muslims."

Brother Chastain, I salute your stand, and I am sure Samuel Zwemmer himself would have said much the same thing.  

So, I give you a quote by Samuel Zwemmer, many years a missionary to Muslims and the first missionary to the Bedhoin. He wrote in his book, History and Origins of Religion, 1935, in which he quotes Dr. Heinrich Frick writing an article for International Review of Missions, titled, "Is a Conviction of the Superiority of His Message Essential to the Missionary?"  Thus...

"We do not need a new interpretation of Christian missions, but rather a revival of their most ancient form based on the consciousness of the final and absolute superiority of the Gospel over religious messages of the world."  

The Ortizes, along with a multitude of spiritual jerks at Fuller and worldwide, have LOST their sense of the superiority of the Gospel.  They have sold their birthright for the reward of a mess of pottage in the form of numbers to report to the annual conference and the supporters.  SHAME.  Your compassion, Fuller groupies, is the compassion of Balaam who taught Israel to fornicate with idols and pagans.

 

LESSONS WE LEARN HERE:

1.  The local church is an offense when it is real.  Thus, it has to be altered to avoid the offense and avoid paying the ultimate price of biblical sainthood.  True saints over the ages have DIED in the act of assembly with other saints.  Sheep don't go cuddle with wolves in order to avoid offending the wolf.  By the way, can one of these SBC wimps tell me on what street in Mecca I might find a "Jesus" mosque?  I have NO doubt though that I may soon hear of a Mullah being asked to take a chair in religion at Fuller!!

2.  Japheth is still enlarging himself as God prophesied in Genesis 9:24-29.  He is an impatient monarch who wants to rule the tents of Shem.  Thus, we must warn the Bible believing saints in Islamic countries, indeed the Muslims themselves, that they should beware of white men bearing gifts of cheap religion.  If you are going to leave Islam, my Middle Eastern friend, make a clean break, for, "Allah is ever ready to kill those he chooses to kill," and the God of the Bible is every bit as unimpressed with half baked religion.  Hanging around in the middle with some white Gringo with a new religious hybrid, neither hot nor cold, is a deadly game.

3.  As the end of the age arrives, we note that men are seducing and being seduced, as we were warned:

Ezekiel 13:10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:

2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Our response:

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.  
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

4. Resistance to "Jesus" mosques is NOT a matter of cultural blindness on the part of overly narrow saints, as the MFB article title implies.  Culture ALWAYS falls in the face of the truth.  The scholars on Mars Hill in Athens had a cultural notion of an unknown god.  Paul told them who the unknown God was.  Paul did not leave them in the dark, and he did not join them in their blind devotions.  The result was not a church planted on Mars Hill, as the account makes clear, but Paul gained a handful who were willing to leave the Athenian superstition and start a local church in the Apostolic model-- elsewhere.  Acts 17

5.  Finally, we ask the Ortizes, and their groupies in and outside of Islam, this question:

Is your religion based in a process of evolution, or is it based in revelation?  If you say, "On Evolution," then we say, good, go on with your mosques, but you better stop calling them by the Holy Name of Jesus.

If you say, "Our religion is based on the revelation of Jesus Christ in the Word of God as revelation," then we give you the words of Jesus Himself:

Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

John 3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

John 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.  
33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.  
34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.  
35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Deuteronomy 4:35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

2 Samuel 7:22 Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God: for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

1 Chronicles 17:20 O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

Isaiah 26:13 O LORD our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name.

Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

Hosea 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

1 Kings 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

Now, you Ortizes and all of you who halt between two opinions-- Jesus and His Church, or Mohammed and his mosque-- you must decide now.  Are you going to follow the risen and soon coming Jesus Christ exclusively, and fellowship with His church as you are commanded in Hebrews 10:25.  

Or, are you going to follow the prophet from Mecca who lost his mind when receiving revelation-- who whacked his penis with a stick in fear of his private parts-- whose face turned to that of a camel when he was talking to angels-- who prayed desperately to get rid of, "My one eyed devil named Dajjal"-- who fled in terror from his enemies in Mecca leaving a young boy hiding in Mohammed's bed to be killed when the Meccans came looking for him-- who claimed all women would go to hell-- who claimed that young women and young boys would be used to satisfy the lust of the men in heaven-- who married his last wife when she was nine years old and consumated the marriage shortly thereafter.

To you, Senior Alejandro, your religion is much like a saying in your home land-- Bueno, Bonito, and Barrato.  The last word surely applies-- CHEAP.   You are a wimp sir.  You will not pay the price-- the years of work and waiting to see the first convert willing to make the break from Islam to walk before Jesus Christ and pay the price.  Sir, it is an easy shot for you and your demented followers to raise your fannies in Benin and face Jerusalem in prayer.  May I suggest you go try praying toward Jerusalem in the mosque in Amman, Jordan or Medina, Saudi Arabia?  Because you are a spiritual wimp sir, you would NOT pay that price.  

I leave you with this story.  In about 1930, Samuel Zwemmer, who was fluent in Arabic, went to Jerusalem to see the city and places of interest.  While there, he went to visit the Mosque of Omar.  He did not go to pray toward Mecca, and he did not kneel to pray with the Muslims there.  He did introduce himself to the Mullah of the mosque.  The Mullah was a powerful man because he was master of the second most important location in Islam.  When Samuel Zwemmer introduced himself in fluent Arabic, the Mullah was charmed, and that is easy to understand.  The average foreigner could not master Arabic like this man who loved the Muslims for the sake of Jesus Christ.  

The Mullah learned of Samuel Zwemmer's zeal for Jesus, and the Mullah asked Samuel to come into his private chamber with him.  There, they were seated, and the Mullah opened a cupboard door, and he removed a well worn Bible in Arabic.  He then asked Samuel to help him understand some passages of Scriptures.  The visit went to hours, and the Mullah heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His exclusive claims on the Mullah's life.  The Mullah begged Samuel to return.  Again, in Egypt, Samuel Zwemmer arranged for the Arabic Bible to be converted to braille.  After a number of years Samuel Zwemmer had 1000 Mullahs in Egypt reading the Bible in Braille.  Samuel Zwemmer NEVER gave away the faith cheap, Barrato, like you have Mr. Ortiz.  AND, when Samuel died, the procession in his honor, in the streets of Cairo, was two miles long.  But then, Samuel Zwemmer made the total committment of his life to Christ alone, so he saw the miracles that you cannot see. 

Barrato, Alejandro, make it cheap, and you will die cheap and go to hell.  No one will remember you a month after you are dead.  Go around to the Zwemmer Institute in Pasadena, California, and you will find 37 books in the library there, all written by Samuel Zwemmer.  I suggest on your next furlough that you make time to read there for a week.  You might make a real missionary yet.  But first, you must examine yourself and see which "Jesus" you serve.  The "Jesus" / "Isa" of Islam is a Sabbaen devil.  If that is your "Jesus," you are damned to hell.  You need to repent and believe on the ONLY Son of God, The Lord Jesus Christ, of whom the Word says, "There is no other."  Alejandro, there is no Mohammed in fellowship with Jesus.  There is no mosque in fellowship with the Lord's Bride.  There is no Whore betrothed to Christ.


 

 

PARALLEL SILLY FOOLS:

August 5, 2003-- Bishops in the Episcopal Church today approved the election of the first openly-Muslim bishop in the church's history. The Islamic cleric, who rejects the deity of Jesus Christ, received an overwhelming majority of the vote. A spokesperson for the Episcopal Church said the move demonstrates, "Our church is open to all people, regardless of their beliefs, or whether they accept the teachings of the Bible."




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